- Trial by Battle
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Grammar Hammer |
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As an adult, I find I'm developing a real appreciation for the "darker" stories. I just re-watched "The Crusaders," and it knocked my
socks off for the second time. I've found myself compiling a list of my favorite stories, and most of them are the more adult, darker ones. For instance:
"I'd like to be a pessimist, but this is a luxury I
cannot afford."
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Strange attraction to the dark side? Oh, yes, definitely. Here's my list - not in order of preference, that would be impossible:
Errand of Mercy
The Wanderer
The Doctor
The Debt
Trapped
I'm not sure if all those episodes can be described as having more adult themes, but
most of them do have the atmosphere of menace, at least in some scenes.
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Grammar Hammer |
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AAWF wrote: Oh, yes! Right after I hit the Post button, I though of "Errand of Mercy." And actually, the opening episode is also quite dark and adult. We
really don't get our first comic hints until "The Moneylender."
"I'd like to be a pessimist, but this is a luxury I
cannot afford."
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AAWF |
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Well said, Grammar Hammer! I was also very annoyed by the references you mention. The authors of those reviews probably watched only a few episodes, not the whole series (or they are repeating what they read elsewhere). I believe (and I'm sure I said it somewhere in the magazine) that Richard Greene's Robin was probably the deepest and most complex Robin Hood character ever created on film. And - yes, Richard Greene had the looks of a Romantic hero, extremely handsome and charismatic. His Robin was more a good guy than a rogue; to me, he made the impression of someone who was naturally very sensitive and emotionally vulnerable, but got toughened up by life experiences. I think this may also be true of Richard Greene himself.
I was going to add "The Coming of Robin Hood" to my list of episodes, but I didn't want to make it too long. I can think of more episodes with dark moments - "Maid Marian", "My Brother's Keeper", "The Double"… |
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AAWF wrote: I just re-watched "The Double" last night, and I was even more impressed at Greene's abilities. When he is playing Luke, he completely alters his body language, and I love the way he never looks anyone in the eye. He just has that sideways squint that is so different from Robin's lustrous, straight-ahead gaze and open face. Even in the rear views, when you see him walking, there is a clear difference between Luke's gait and Robin's. At any rate, I think this just proves our point that The Adventures was so much more than a kiddie adventure show, and Richard Greene was much more than just a pretty face. Now-who else will contribute a list of his or her favorite "dark" episodes?
"I'd like to be a pessimist, but this is a luxury I
cannot afford."
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LucyC324 |
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Hello Anna and Grammar Hammer,
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LucyC324 wrote: Lucy- I like your list, but I don't see anything on it as particularly dark. And you'll probably kill me for this, but I loathe "The Bride of Robin Hood." And to Anna: I'd have to take "The Wanderer" off the "dark" list. Although it's certainly one of my favorites, nothing with
Joseph's final line in it could be considered "dark." In fact, Joseph's optimism is why I chose the line for my signature.
"I'd like to be a pessimist, but this is a luxury I
cannot afford."
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AAWF |
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I must admit I don't like "The Bride of Robin Hood" very much. It's a pretty silly story, but I think Richard Greene coped with it very well. I wonder if he enjoyed it…
As to "The Wanderer", what I thought of as "dark moments" were the night-time scenes in Nottingham. It was the atmosphere, the air of danger… When Robin was running away and trying to hide from the Sheriff's men, I really thought they were going to catch him. I still remember the unbearable tension when I watched it for the first time! |
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LucyC324 |
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Hello Grammar Hammer,
I can understand your point. Perhaps I was wrong in the way I interpreted the "dark side". I was thinking more in terms of adult themes, the complexity of living in a rather dark time in history rather than epsodes that appeared to be more fun with the action and adventure style that children would enjoy. Regards, Lucy |
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AAWF wrote: I think my take on "darker" has to do with a combination of more adult themes and a lack of a pat happy ending. Even those that turn out all
right-like "Trial by Battle" and "The Dream"-still seem to me to retain a dark undercurrent right up to the closing credits.
"I'd like to be a pessimist, but this is a luxury I
cannot afford."
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Clement of the Glen |
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Could the reason for the darker themes in the stories reflect the conditions and background in which the authors were living in at the time. In particular,
the start of the Cold War and of course the Black Listed writers in America.
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Clement of the Glen wrote: Absolutely, Clement! I think this is really obvious in "The Crusaders," where we see the contrast between Robin's trust in his friends and
Beaumont's cynicism and betrayal of Robin for purely selfish reasons
"I'd like to be a pessimist, but this is a luxury I
cannot afford."
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Grammar Hammer |
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I recently rewatched "The Doctor," and what really impressed me was that we got to see a bit of Robin's own dark side. The fact that he lost
sight of the very basis of why he did what he did and had to be recalled to his mission by Dr. Benvolio really knocked my socks off. This was definitely a
Robin with depths not normally seen on a "kids'" show.
"I'd like to be a pessimist, but this is a luxury I
cannot afford."
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AAWF |
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Mother Hubbard, you are absolutely right about "Robin with depths"! Isn't it strange that this aspect has been ignored by all the reviewers of the series?
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